A non response to Jaboo Bell

To Jaboo Bell Im not going to write the editor of the paper this time but we will post our response to you via this website.

Wolves have killed humans.
To the editor,
A response to David Watson and Stacey Lavigne (killing deer is not an answer, Daily News Opinion, Sept 22).

Twenty-two-year old Kenton Joel Carnegie died Nov, 2005 in points North Landing from the mauling of a wolf. A man was mauled in the same area a year earlier by a pack of wolves, luckily, he was saved by other men.
I believe myself to be a logical human being, equipped with common sense. I will not waver from my view that there are a ridiculous number of deer in our town. My idea is plain and simple. If we get rid of the deer in town then the wolves will go elsewhere in their search for food.

I remember the story of a man in Poet Edward who bravely rescued his dog from a wolf. I have seen deer, moose and bears on television that have been shot with darts and relocated. The deer in Prince Rupert should be relocated to dinner tables and the hides given to drum makers and hooves for the dance regalia.
Unlike Banf Alberta, Prince Rupert in not a National Park. It is a small town with wayward hungry wolves and too many deer roaming our streets.
David Watson and Stacey Lavigne needn’t worry-often even the most obvious suggestions are not enough to prompt people to do the right thing.
Respecting wild animals means to me not hanging out with wolves and bears. They have large teeth, powerful jaws and are very agile and very fast. I on the other hand have two legs and no real defense except to gouge an eye or scream. So I do the obvious, I stay away from them and leave them alone.
This is called Instinct
Jaboo Bell

We asked you how you would deal with the Deer problem and like we said before we agree with you there is a deer problem. But again you didn’t tell the good people of Prince Rupert how you would deal with it.
Come on and answer the question!!
We had to laugh when we read this part it is funny, you keep stating it, that there a over abundance of deer, but here you say and I quote “Prince Rupert in not a national Park, it is a small town with wayward hungry wolves and too many deer roaming our streets”
The wolves Jaboo are not starving, if they were we they would go elsewhere. If you went to our website you would see how well fed they are.
Where is your proof that the wolves are starving ?

As for Kenton Joel Carnegie we said it all ready in the previous letter and we brought it up to you, that there has only been one death in Canada that may have been attributed to wolves, you state it as fact that he was killed by wolves, but when you read the papers and news articles you will see that they do not know for sure if it was wolves or not! you jumped to a Conclusion thats not based on fact but based on your fear!

Quotes from different papers
From Duluth News Tribune ^ | 12-21-05 | JOHN MYERS
INVESTIGATION: Officials are investigating whether a Canadian man was killed by wolves that he may have been feeding.â Gee wiz Feeding the wild wolves, thats smart.

From the province’s Ministry of Environment refuses to
Acknowledge — at least publicly — that Carnegie likely died as a
Result of a wolf attack.

“There was no direct linkage to wolves,” says Art Jones, a spokesman
with the Saskatchewan Ministry of the Environment. “We don’t have an
Eyewitness account. All we know is that a young man was found dead
and he had been scavenged. We are unable to determine whether the man
was killed or whether he died of other causes.”

This young man may have died from wolves or other causes. All of the articles say he may have died from wolves and after a year there still unsure.
What seems to be fact is that there were a few individuals who were feeding the wolves or as it is called baiting which we do not do.

Now the wolves in port Edward thats funny the reason is that most of the wolves out in Port Ed could be wolf – dog hybrids, there once was a man who lived out in Inverness for 40 years, his dogs seemed to be busy with the wolves in the area, after his death the dogs were let go and most likely some joined the pack. we have heard reports of a wolf with a huge mame around his head a lot like a German shepherd.
The man who saved his dog as far as were concerned was not acting rationally; it is common sense that you dont get in between a dog fight not unless you want to end up getting a finger or two bitten off. This goes for wild animals and a pet.

Now with ‘Instinct you said and we quote So I do the obvious, I stay away from them and leave them alone. This is called ‘Instinct
were sorry this in not Instinct its called being afraid of the unknown.
From Wikipedia Instinct is the inherent disposition of a living organism toward a particular behavior. Instincts are generally inherited patterns of responses or reactions to certain kinds of stimuli. In humans they are most easily observed in behaviors such as emotions, sexual drive, and other bodily functions.

Jaboo Bell were sure you think you are write and thats cool with us but we do differ with this quote and were sure we are not the only ones. “David Watson and Stacey Lavigne neednt worry-often even the most obvious suggestions are not enough to prompt people to do the right thing.
What is the right thing for you Jaboo? kill all the deer on the island so the wolves and bears and other wild life go elsewhere?
Build a huge glass dome over Prince Rupert to keep out all the unwelcome guests?
I tell you why we live here Jaboo because of the wildlife in our backyard, were else can you see eagles, swans, hawks, owls, bats, porcupines, marmots, goats, deer, wolves, bears, grizzly bears, salmon in the rivers or ocean, grey whales, killer whales, seals, I tell you were in a Zoo. No thanks
Its ok Jaboo you rather view wild life from the comfort of your lazy boy chair in front of a TV, but were going to enjoy it by experiencing it in the wild.


3 days 3 wolves

Tonight makes it 3 nights in a row we have seen wolves, in two of those instances we were able to get photo’s and video, The Video I was able to take was of a young wolf who has an injured paw, he laid down in front of me while I filmed him. When I first spotted the rain wolf he was about 100 feet away I went back to our Van to let Stacey know I had seen a wolf I grabbed the video camera when I went back out side I noticed the wolf followed me back to the Van I went back to the Van and Stacey came out with the spot light, it slipped back into the night and I then left with the Cam and Spot light, I was able to get footage of the wolf, as you can hear in the video I was a bit winded as I ran to the van to get the cam. While I was filming this wolf another could be heard beside me, I could not see him, but could hear him in the bush at this point I didn’t take my chances in the dark and left the area.

Yawning Wolf

Laying Down

Warning after wolves slink back into town By James Vassallo, The Daily News

Published: Friday, January 26, 2007

A new year is bringing with it yet another batch of wolf sightings by Rupert residents.

Recently a local women and her family was approached by an animal before passing motorists frightened it off.

“We were heading towards McDonalds a couple of days ago and we got to that crossing before the Civic Center and it came from the westside towards us,” said Pamela Gonzalez, who was walking with her husband and children along McBride Street.

“It was coming close to us but two or three cars scared it away … and it just went bombing down (Hays Creek).”

It was a lone wolf in this case and described by the Rupert woman as “about dog size, although it runs like a cheetah”. No one was injured, although the family was frightened.

“It was coming towards us before the car came and my kids were really scared, said Gonzalez. They’re okay now but they get scared when they walk at night.

“It just ran so fast, it was so scary.

Last summer, there were a number of sightings at the golf course and the city dump. Conservation officials confirmed that there was indeed a pack of wolves roaming that area, but that it would be highly unusual for them to approach humans.

Although this did happen in one case, Conservation officers explained they had very limited options when dealing with wolves due to it being an urban area. The main options are generally leg-hold traps, which often means putting pets at risk, or shooting the wolves, which puts people at risk.

An employee at the dump had his dog chased by a wolf last May after people were spotted feeding the animals in the area a serious crime. The wolf was destroyed near the landfill a week later after it came right up to a Conservation officer sent from Terrace to investigate. The wolf was expecting to be fed.

The so-called scraggly wolf with a limp that had aggressively approached a number of people and that killed several small pets in town was shot by Conservation Officers near Cow Bay in August 2005. In February 2005, a wolf was also shot in the Sherbrooke area of the city.

Conservation recommends that people keep their pets — a major attractant to wolves — on a leash. People should consider carrying a walking stick and think about whether they will be in an area where wildlife interactions may occur. The landfill, golf course and Butze Rapids are prime areas for wildlife encounters.

If people are approached by a wolf or a pack of wolves, they should back away from the area don’t turn and run. Try to look as big and intimidating as possible by yelling and waving and leave the area immediately.

If people are approached by a wolf or wolves they should report the incident to Conservation at 1-877-952-7277. Call police only if it is an immediate threat.

Our Response
To the editor,
In response to
Warning after wolves slink back into town By James Vassallo, The Daily News” Jan 26, 2007.
The wolves on Kaien Island have not slinked back into town but have been here many a millennia. The wolves have been using the hayscove creek trail to go from the one side of town to the back side of Mount Hays for a number of months. They use a lot of the micro forests like the deer do. At this point I have only witnessed prints on and near wantage road. I have however seen wolves on the other side of the mountain near the turn of to Ridley Island. I know there have been a few wolves killed, one by a vehicle, and the others have been wounded by deer or even humans. If the Alpha male has been killed this may have lead the pack to separate or more plausible is that a few of the 2 to 3 years olds that were with the pack have separated to make there own pack, as the wolves that have been spotted near the Civic center have been seen in two’s a few times.

I would like to stress that we are not the only community to have wolves as neighbours, Port Ed area has a rich history of wolves near and around their community there is at least two packs that are found on each side of their small town, Dodge and Crippen Cove found on Digby Island also have a pack of wolves. Metlakatla also has a pack of wolves near their community that frequent the salt lakes. Out at Kloya bay there is a pack of wolves.
The rain wolves as they are called are genetically different then the Gray wolves we see in the interior, Alaska, and the Rockies. The rain wolves that are found here are some what smaller, there also have red color in their fur. They have diet that not only consists of deer but consists of shell fish, and even salmon, but only eat the heads.

Its been said we have a deer problem on Kaien Island, this is true and with out the wolves the deer’s only real predator, the deer would eat everything, multiply and with two many deer and not enough food, disease might set in and spread from deer to house hold pets.

There are studies being done of dump sites and wolves in urban communities. Like our fine city the planners didn’t plan to well by placing the first dump site well within town limits, during that time bears were the kings and probably kept the wolves away. So then the city builds a dump out near Ridley Island they put a electrified fence around it to keep the bears out, but in doing so other scavengers and predators were drawn in closer. Double shame on the city for leaving electrified gates opens after hours, why use a fence if you leave a gate open for the weekend?
Humans on this island treat it as a dumpsite drive down wantage road or the old road to the industrial site road you can find beds, couches, house hold appliances, TV’s and such, so who is to blame? The city will not go out and clean it up due to I’m sure budgetary needs. I also have photos of whole crabs in large plastic bags along the road as well as salmon. Then this past few months hunters have dumped two moose or elk carcasses out along wantage road and the wolves have been spotted eating the remains. Its no wonder wolves are found so close to town.

Dont get me wrong if we have problem wolves, then they need to be dealt with. In a previous letter to the editor, I suggested live traps and removing the wolves off island to work channel. I also believe in some instances wolves may have to be killed.
Since we started a webpage dedicated to the Kaien island rain wolves, we have brought attention to the wolves found here and we have had people on the street tell us their stories of encounters with the rain wolves all have been non-threatening encounters with a magical but misunderstood animal.

When you go out to grassy bay, you are in the wilderness and in any wilderness there will be wild animals, there is a reason you see the warning about pets and wolves there. You want to take your dog for a walk go to the water front, common sense is all that is needed. Use a leash with your pets. If a wolf or wolves come towards you, yell and scream at it, don’t run, walk away slowly, also keep pets in at night and make sure garbage is in bins. The wolves in town are young and inquisitive and may leave the area if people stop using the city as a garbage dump, and dumping animal remains out at wantage road.

David L Watson
Stacey Lavigne

Port Ed Wolves

Tonight we went for a drive to Port Ed in our new van, on our way back to Prince Rupert we saw a wolf on the road just out side of Port Ed. This was around 5:30 Pm so it was just getting dark I had my camera but unfortunately I didn’t have a tripod to mount it so the pictures are a bit blurry, we also didn’t have our cam but we finally got to see a wolf its been since Aug.

In the photo gallery section I have put in the 3 different wolf packs that are found near here.
1. The Kaien Island wolf pack.
2. The Port Ed wolf pack. ( two packs are found there one on each side of town
3. The Kloya Bay wolf pack.

The Kloya bay wolf pack we only have paw prints. Hope to have more in the next few months.
Port Ed Bay

Port Ed Bay

Close encounter with the wild kind!

For the last week I have been going out before day break to photograph the wolves, No luck yet, the wolf kills I found out turned out to be a dumped moose carcasses. (and people wonder why the wolves come so close to town) Any way A few people have told me stories of there close encounters with the magical wolves of Kaien Island. One story I was told was very magical and a bit surreal.
This individual was walking at night threw the trail from civic center to BC packers, armed with a small flashlight crossed path’s with a wolf, at first he thought it was a dog, but not seeing anyone else on the trail realised it was a wolf, during this time he talked to the big fellow keeping his voice calm, the wolf was about 8 feet away during this time and the fellow said he never felt worried and could not believe his encounter and the fact he never had a camera. The wolf slipped into the night going to the creek at this point the fellow finished his walk to the library; he ran into a friend walking her dog and petted the dog. After which he started back to the civic center. This individual was thinking how lucky he was too see a wolf that night again ran right in to the same wolf, but this time the wolf came right up to him and sniffed the hand that touched his friends dog. The wolf opened his mouth and shut it fast causing the teeth to click. At this time the wolf crossed the highway over to the civic center stopping on the other side it turn around, just at that point a older lady asked the fellow is that your dog across the street, he replied Oh no that’s not a dog, that’s a wolf, at this point the wolf disappeared back in to the night.

What a story and the way it was told to me. I could tell this guy knew he had a magical moment that he would never soon forget.

Back to tracking, it looks like a wolf has been injured, maybe hit by a car or injured by a deer possibly if you look closely at this photo you can see he his dragging both his legs.

Canada’s Rain Forest Wolves a Link to Past

Canada’s Rain Forest Wolves a Link to Past
Stefan Lovgren
for National Geographic News

October 1, 2004
From the inland fjords to the windswept outer islands, the north and central archipelago of British Columbia in Canada has been largely untouched by time. In the thick temperate rain forest, wolves reign supreme, just like they have for millennia.

To Chris Darimont, a University of Victoria Ph.D. student, the rugged and remote islands are “the home of the truly wild.” Since 2000 he has been studying, among other things, the foraging behavior of wolves in the Great Bear Rainforest to learn more about the little-known ecology of the islands.

The wolves play an integral part in the ecosystem in the archipelago, and their diet can offer scientists important clues about the dynamics between predator and prey.

Investigating the feces of the elusive wolves, Darimont found that their diets consist to a large extent of black-tailed deer. But he also found that their diets vary greatly depending on location. On the outer islands, for example, wolves are far less likely to have a deer for lunch than on the inner islands.

These findings suggest that wolves can deplete resources in isolated areas, making the link between the predators and their prey more delicate there.

The information is important for understanding not only island ecosystems, but also for conservation efforts. If scientists can understand how species behave on isolated islands, they may be able to figure out how the species will behave in other places that are becoming more fragmented.

“Our planet is turning out to be a series of islands for wildlife and nature,” said Darimont, who is halfway through his Ph.D. in conservation biology. “Instead of oceans and waterways separating habitable landmasses, we have highways, farms, and cities. The more we learn about island ecology, the more we can apply this information to the rest of the world.”

Darimont’s research is described in an upcoming article in the Journal of Biogeography. His project is also featured in a forthcoming National Geographic film called The Last Stand of the Great Bear, which will air on PBS on November 3 in the U.S.

Elusive Hunters

Much of the British Columbia archipelago is uncharted territory, because the islands are so inaccessible. Visitors must either fly or boat in. The weather is often unpredictable, and waters can turn very rough in the winter.

“It approximates what the coast used to look like, from southeast Alaska to northern California,” Darimont said. “We can observe ecological and evolutionary processes here that are largely unaffected by humanity. It’s a good opportunity to learn about how ecosystems used to work.”

Scientists had virtually no baseline information on the wildlife in the area. With the logging industry threatening to move north into the pristine rain forest, Darimont says the urgent need was to “go out there and see what we have.”

Wolves made an ideal entry point for the study. “They are flagship animals,” he said. “They can answer important questions about island ecology, inspire debate, and also help us advocate for the preservation of these forests.”

But the foraging behavior of wolves is difficult to study because they are so elusive. Their hunting techniques are a mystery. Some research suggests that wolves kill by ambush.

Wolf and deer encounters sometimes involve water. Although wolves can swim for several miles, deer are better swimmers. If a deer is swimming in the water, wolves may spread out on shore to wait for it to get out once it gets cold and tired.

Unable to witness directly how the wolves make their living, the researchers did the next best thing: They picked up what the wolves left behind.

During two five-week trips in the summers of 2000 and 2001, Darimont’s team collected almost 600 feces samples over a 60,000-square-kilometer (23,000-square-mile) area. The expanse is three times the size of New Jersey.

While black-tailed deer form the majority of the wolves’ prey, Darimont was surprised at the diversity of their diet and how it varies depending on where the wolves are.

On the relatively species-rich mainland, wolves hunt deer, but also moose, mountain goats, and smaller mammals. On the inner islands, the best habitat for deer, the wolves’ diet is almost completely dominated by deer.

On islands farther out in the archipelago, across water channels that may run several miles wide, deer make up about 50 percent of the diet. On the extreme outer islands, the number drops to below 20 percent.

“Isolation is a really important factor in determining how wolves make their living,” Darimont said. “Predators can run out of resources in isolation.”

This suggests that wolf populations are more vulnerable further out to sea, in greater isolation. When animals depart from their main prey, they are taking greater risks.

The findings may have important implications for the design of protected areas for wolves and other carnivores. What happens on coastal islands is likely to happen in parks. “In a better connected park system the predator-prey association is less likely to be affected,” Darimont said.

The Food Web

The researchers have also found that wolves are excellent salmon fishers. The wolves stand at the riverside or at estuaries, using their muzzles to make their catch. They eat only the head of the salmon, avoiding the body and viscera.

The decapitated salmon, however, play an important role in the ecosystem. Scavengers will eat the body. Flies may come in and leave their eggs in the carcass. The eggs then turn into larvae, which are eaten by birds. In the forest canopy these birds later excrete the nutrients from the flies nutrients that the flies got from the fish.

“There are such incredible linkages in the food web,” Darimont said.

The coastal wolf project has also shed further light on the genetics of wolves. Wolves are more widely distributed than any known large mammal. This strongly suggests they have a lot of genetic variability, which allows the predators to adapt to different environments, from deserts to high mountains.

Researchers say that wolves in the coastal region are much more genetically variable than wolves elsewhere in North America. This may be because their populations have not been decimated from hunting as they have been elsewhere.

“We may be looking at the historic wolf rather than the modern wolf,” said Paul Paquet, a biology professor at the University of Calgary who initiated the coastal wolf project.

Because of their greater genetic variability, the coastal wolves may be more adaptable and resilient than other wolves, Paquet said.

Darimont views the wolves as great ambassadors for the coastal rain forest. “To have an area still in the world where we see wolves in historic numbers, living like they did millennia ago, is amazing,” he said.

Tracking is on again

This morning I got a phone call from a friend of mine saying he has been hearing the wolves all morning near were I live. Told me that they sounded near.
We knew the wolves were close to town but unsure were they may be at. So the phone call really helped out.
Stacey, Baby and myself made a 5 min drive and with in min we found a deer carcass, there was no hair or fur found with the bones leading us to think the deer was killed else were and parts were taken away and eaten at the spot we found the carcass.

A few times we could hear the wolves in the hills but they were to far away. Plus Babe was getting tired, we took photos and then left. Were hopping to go back out first thing tomorrow morning to see if we can get any winter shots.

Stay tuned.

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